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D3 starter ikke (start motor slår ikke inn)


Eirik Joa

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Har en D3 2006 som har fungert uten noen problem. Står normalt i garasje, men her en kveld stod den selvfølgelig ute og i bakke å da startet den ikke.

Når jeg vrir om nøkkel hører jeg bare klikking. Ingen feilmeldinger i display.

Nytt batteri har den også.

Noen som har ide om hvor jeg kan begynne å sjekke etter feil eller har egne liknende erfaringer

 

Tok en diagnose og det kom opp ufattelig mange feil. Ingen lot seg slette

Som dere ser under så er listen lang som et vondt år

 

VIN SALLAAA146A352733 Model L319 - Discovery 3 2006 Vehicle scanned on 17. feb. 2018 11:35:45 IIDControl 2.9.4.5 Android - IIDTool BT V3.0 B2481 Auxilary Heater B1A00-49 (50) Control module - System internal failure - internal electronic failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D22-11 (50) Water temperature sensor circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D22-15 (50) Water temperature sensor circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to battery or open *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D23-13 (50) Overheat sensor circuit - General electrical failure - circuit open *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D24-11 (50) Glow plug circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D24-15 (50) Glow plug circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to battery or open *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D25-11 (50) Dosing pump circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D25-15 (50) Dosing pump circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to battery or open *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D26-11 (50) Combustion air fan circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D26-15 (50) Combustion air fan circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to battery or open *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D26-93 (50) Combustion air fan circuit - Component failure - no operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D26-92 (50) Combustion air fan circuit - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D27-11 (50) Coolant pump circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D27-15 (50) Coolant pump circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to battery or open *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D28-11 (50) Fuel pre-heater circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D28-15 (50) Fuel pre-heater circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to battery or open *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1A00-16 (50) Control module - General electrical failure - circuit voltage below threshold *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1A00-17 (50) Control module - General electrical failure - circuit voltage above threshold *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U0073-08 (50) Control module communication bus off - General failure information - bus signal/message failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D34-68 (50) Heater in lock out mode - Algorithm based failure - event information *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U1A37-87 (50) Crash status telegram - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U1A00-08 (50) Private bus circuit - General failure information - bus signal/message failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U1A03-95 (50) Vehicle configuration parameter - Component failure - incorrect assembly *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1A00-43 (50) Control module - System internal failure - special memory failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U0164-87 (50) Lost communication with heating ventilation and air conditioning control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D63-11 (50) External control relay - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D63-15 (50) External control relay - General electrical failure - circuit short to battery or open *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U1A44-6C (50) Fuel level *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U3000-55 (50) Control module - System programming failure - is not configured *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle Body Control B1A59-16 (50) Sensor 5 volt supply circuit - General electrical failure - circuit voltage below threshold *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1A99-4C (50) Power on reset *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B00-42 (50) Electrically erasable programmable read only memory - bad checksum in flash - System internal failure - general memory failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B00-44 (50) Electrically erasable programmable read only memory - bad checksum in flash - System internal failure - data memory failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B00-45 (50) Electrically erasable programmable read only memory - bad checksum in flash - System internal failure - program memory failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B00-47 (50) Electrically erasable programmable read only memory - bad checksum in flash - System internal failure - watchdog/safety failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B01-46 (50) Key transponder - System internal failure - calibration/parameter memory failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B01-4A (50) Key transponder - System internal failure - incorrect component installed *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B01-4C (50) Key transponder *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B01-66 (50) Key transponder - Algorithm based failure - signal has too many transitions/events *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B01-87 (50) Key transponder - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B02-28 (2F) Low frequency coil - General signal failure - signal bias level is out of range/zero adjustment failure ( at 221220 km ) *Test Failed *Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle *Confirmed *Test Failed Since Last Clear B1B03-53 (50) Antenna failure - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B03-92 (50) Antenna failure - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B03-96 (50) Antenna failure - Component failure - internal failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B04-53 (50) Transponder key 2 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B04-92 (50) Transponder key 2 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B05-53 (50) Transponder key 3 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B05-92 (50) Transponder key 3 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B06-53 (50) Transponder key 4 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B06-92 (50) Transponder key 4 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B07-53 (50) Transponder key 5 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B07-92 (50) Transponder key 5 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B08-53 (50) Transponder key 6 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B08-92 (50) Transponder key 6 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B09-53 (50) Transponder key 7 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B09-92 (50) Transponder key 7 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B10-53 (50) Transponder key 8 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B10-92 (50) Transponder key 8 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B11-53 (50) Transponder key 9 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B11-92 (50) Transponder key 9 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B12-53 (50) Transponder key 10 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B12-92 (50) Transponder key 10 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B13-53 (50) Transponder key 11 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B13-92 (50) Transponder key 11 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B14-53 (50) Transponder key 12 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B14-92 (50) Transponder key 12 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B15-53 (50) Transponder key 13 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B15-92 (50) Transponder key 13 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B16-53 (50) Transponder key 14 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B16-92 (50) Transponder key 14 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B17-53 (50) Transponder key 15 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B17-92 (50) Transponder key 15 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B18-53 (50) Transponder key 16 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B18-92 (50) Transponder key 16 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B19-53 (50) Transponder key 17 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B19-92 (50) Transponder key 17 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B20-53 (50) Transponder key 18 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B20-92 (50) Transponder key 18 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B21-53 (50) Transponder key 19 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B21-92 (50) Transponder key 19 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B22-53 (50) Transponder key 20 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B22-92 (50) Transponder key 20 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B23-53 (50) Transponder key 21 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B23-92 (50) Transponder key 21 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B24-53 (50) Transponder key 22 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B24-92 (50) Transponder key 22 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B25-53 (50) Transponder key 23 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B25-92 (50) Transponder key 23 - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B26-53 (50) Transponder key 24 - System programming failure - deactivated *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle Cell Phone U0029-68 (50) Vehicle communication bus A performance - Algorithm based failure - event information *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U0400-68 (50) Invalid data received (event diagnostic trouble code) - Algorithm based failure - event information *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle Navigation B110E-25 (50) Tailgate double locking motor - General signal failure - signal shape/waveform failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1110-25 (50) Air suspension delay power - General signal failure - signal shape/waveform failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1A89-13 (50) Satellite antenna - General electrical failure - circuit open *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D62-87 (50) Sub-module 'B' - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1D62-49 (50) Sub-module 'B' - System internal failure - internal electronic failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle Suspension C1A31-01 (50) Front left corner valve - General failure information - general electrical failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A32-01 (50) Front right corner valve - General failure information - general electrical failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A33-01 (50) Rear left corner valve - General failure information - general electrical failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A34-01 (50) Rear right corner valve - General failure information - general electrical failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A35-01 (50) Reservoir valve - General failure information - general electrical failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A37-01 (50) Front cross-link valve - General failure information - general electrical failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A38-01 (50) Rear cross-link valve - General failure information - general electrical failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A13-64 (50) Pressure does not decrease when venting gallery - Algorithm based failure - signal plausibility failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A36-01 (50) Exhaust valve - General failure information - general electrical failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A24-67 (50) No temperature increase when compressor requested - Algorithm based failure - signal is incorrect after the event *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A18-64 (50) Pressure increases too rapid when filling reservoir - Algorithm based failure - signal plausibility failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A24-64 (50) No temperature increase when compressor requested - Algorithm based failure - signal plausibility failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A27-14 (50) Compressor circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground or open *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A29-92 (50) Switch activation too long - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A30-64 (50) Both switches pressed at the same time - Algorithm based failure - signal plausibility failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A03-26 (50) Front left height sensor - General signal failure - signal rate of change is below the threshold *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1131-92 (50) Air supply - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A03-92 (50) Front left height sensor - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A04-26 (50) Front right height sensor - General signal failure - signal rate of change is below the threshold *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A04-92 (50) Front right height sensor - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A05-26 (50) Rear left height sensor - General signal failure - signal rate of change is below the threshold *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A05-92 (50) Rear left height sensor - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A06-26 (50) Rear right height sensor - General signal failure - signal rate of change is below the threshold *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U0133-87 (50) Lost communication with dynamic response module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1123-1C (50) Steering isolation valve supply circuit - General electrical failure - circuit voltage out of range *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A06-92 (50) Rear right height sensor - Component failure - performance or incorrect operation *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1B18-62 (50) Supply voltage x-ref check - Algorithm based failure - signal compare failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A07-62 (50) Cross articulation - Algorithm based failure - signal compare failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A20-64 (50) Pressure increases too slow when filling reservoir - Algorithm based failure - signal plausibility failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U0136-87 (50) Lost communication with differential control module - rear - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A55-01 (50) Ignition switch input circuit - General failure information - general electrical failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U1A14-49 (50) CAN initialisation failure - System internal failure - internal electronic failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U2000-67 (50) Motor temperature - Algorithm based failure - signal is incorrect after the event *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1A00-1C (50) Control module - General electrical failure - circuit voltage out of range *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1122-01 (50) Steering isolation valve - General failure information - general electrical failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1130-7A (50) Air spring air supply - Mechanical failure - fluid leak or seal failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C112F-72 (50) Air spring valve - Mechanical failure - actuator is stuck open *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1130-66 (50) Air spring air supply - Algorithm based failure - signal has too many transitions/events *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle U0434-86 (50) Invalid data received from dynamic response module - Bus signal/message failure - signal is invalid *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1139-23 (50) Unknown *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C1138-23 (50) Access switch - General signal failure - signal stays low *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle C113A-64 (50) Wake-up control - Algorithm based failure - signal plausibility failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle Ventilation B1A70-01 (50) Compressor solenoid positive supply - General failure information - general electrical failure *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1A73-18 (50) Left seat heater - General electrical failure - circuit current below threshold *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1A74-18 (50) Right seat heater - General electrical failure - circuit current below threshold *Test Not Completed *Test Not Completed This Monitoring Cycle B1B65-15 (2F) Left seat heater temperature sensor - General electrical failure - circuit short to battery or open ( at 221224 km ) *Test Failed *Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle *Confirmed *Test Failed Since Last Clear B1B66-15 (2F) Right seat heater temperature sensor - General electrical failure - circuit short to battery or open ( at 221224 km ) *Test Failed *Test Failed This Monitoring Cycle *Confirmed *Test Failed Since Last Clear

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Kanskje starte med å slå av noe i IidTool slik at du ikke får ut alle test syklus melding ;) 

Kan høres ut som dårlig kontakt et sted (hvis du har målt batteriet og har nok strøm), slik at starter ikke slår inn.

Ville startet med å måle batteriet. Det at det er nytt, er ikke det samme som at det nå er fullt av strøm :) 

Deretter sjekket at polskoene sitter skikkelig på batteriet hvis det er byttet nylig.

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Håper det løser seg med den. 

Ellers er nok en gjenganger at girspaken begynner å gå tregt, og bilen tror ikke den står ordentlig i P. Løses enkelt med litt smøring av forbindelsen mellom girspaken og kassa, lett tilgjengelig når girkassedekslet er løsnet. 

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Kort fortalt:

Du har kortsluttning til jord i dynamo. strømmen velger den korteste veien til jord.

 

Avanser fortalt:

 

I dynamoen sitter det 4 dioder disse er satt opp som en likeretter. Disse diodene har i oppgave å gjøre om AC strøm som dynamoen lager til DC like strøm som batteriet og resten av bilen trives best med.

 

Dioder / Likerettere kan feile på 2 måter. enten tvert brudd akkurat det samme som å slå av en lysbryter, eller full kortsluttning, som å slå på en byter.

Dynamo er på en måte en motor, denne har lakk isolerte kobbertråder. når dynamoen blir for varm kan lakken smelte av og kobberet kan komme borti gods / dynamo huset og den er jo jordet. Og der har du en kortsluttning.

 

Så mest sansynlig har du en dynamo som har takket for seg på godt Norsk, brebnt av en jordings kabel og misshandlet batteriet i bilen. Jeg mistenker at dynamoen har vært "syk" en stund, og da slipper den igjennom Ac noe som verken bil eller batteri er begeistret for. Batteriet er det som tar mest skade av dette. så jeg setter en knapp på at det bør byttes ut etter at du har satt i ny dynamo. Så for å være sikker på at du får startet i vinterkulda så sett i nytt 100Ah batteri. 

 

Dette er mine tanker..

 

Mr.P

 

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Er ikke dynamo jordet til motoren uavhengig av kabel ? 

 

Starter burde strengt tatt fungert, selv om dynamoen er koblet fra. 

Så lenge batteriet er ok. 

 

Eg  ville målt motstand fra minus pol batteri,  og bort til selve motoren også. Får å konstantere at det er skikkelg jord forbindelse. Dårlig jording, lager alle slags rare feil. 

Har hendt at jordings kabel har vært løse her å der. 

Spes der som minus kabel fra batteriet er festet til karosseriet. 

 

Men utfra beskrivelsen, er sikkert dynamoen gåen,,,,,,,, 

 

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